Wednesday, November 07, 2007

Citizens for Port Development meeting.

Wow. What a somber group today. Kaye Strickland started out the meeting chastising the Higgins and Quilez campaigns for not going to North Coast Rail Authority (NCRA) or Harbor Commission meetings. What this had to do with opening the meeting I had no idea.

Marcus Brown from the Timber Heritage Association The Timber Heritage Association AMRR#101 was to present his ideas of Rails and Trails. He made it sound like Higgins wants to tear the tracks immediately for trail access. He wants to see a designated National Heritage Area created with automobile and tourist train excursions. We needed an Anchor Attraction. He said his interaction with Cal Trans turned up a brewing fight with trails supporters. He said the trails people option of choices was “Bull Shit.” Then Marcus meandered to an idea of his to put rails/trails idea with incorporation of taking the trouble point of not enough room for both along 101 along the Eucalyptus trees by having the trail move to the Eastside of 101. He said the uplands near Harper Ford were sufficient for trail access. Good ideas, but there needs to be constructive dialogue. Marcus then went on a tangent about trail advocate consultants giving misleading facts of volume of users of the proposed trails. Said the Maximum Volume usage numbers are misleading.

Concerning the current state of rail, Marcus said the rail needs money focused on the Environment. He made vague accusations of the NCRA “coloring” the money and mis-allocating? Got me. I am out of the loop he was generally voicing. Marcus made a great point of dollar value of rail. If you haul a ton of material by truck a gallon of fuel will take you 12 miles. You can take a ton of material by rail a gallon of fuel will go 400 miles. Good argument for train and rail.

The Citizens for Port Development group is becoming fractured. Bill Bertain said that he was concerned that people at the meeting were pro-trail and anti-rail. But he did not identify those involved. Public comment was leaning forward about the working class and the PL workers and then Bertain attacked Palco working practices and this meeting lost all viability. Pro worker Palco people talked smack back.

Mel Mckinney brought up the fact that FEMA made a report in 1998 that the cost for rail to be connected to the south rail would be 642 million! And he explained that the Harbor District has not recognized Mike Wilson’s many motions and that Ronnie Pelligrini has told Mike to enjoy his term, because they will get rid of him afterward. He said we need to have open ideas and open dialogue.

I have been going to these meetings for years. I have not witnessed such a fractured group as I witnessed today. There needs to open communication and no political mud slinging. I would like to see Rails and Trails done in cooperation. Can we agree with the concept?

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

My God Mel talking about opennes, that is a real hoot.

Anonymous said...

Kay is spot on. Neither ever attends meetings but talk a laundry list of lies that the whack crowd rallied round. To damn bad they are the only ones turning out to vote. BAD,BAD,BAD.

Anonymous said...

Sour grapes.

Anonymous said...

Its really sad to see the world fall apart around these people. They want to move back in time so badly.

Anonymous said...

everyone is talking about the big turnover or almost turnover at the harbor if that is the case why did the area affected the most let the seat run unopposed and keep the balance the same

Anonymous said...

Blow up the mill, rip out the rail, bulldoze Samoa and Manila, and return the bay to its natural state.

Anonymous said...

It seems we may now have another commisioner that will listen to constituants concerns. We will see. But bye-bye Chucky!!!

Anonymous said...

CPR has never been a cohesive group. Yes, rails AND trails are possible but only if the trails people can broaden their tunnel-vision. No pun intended.

Anonymous said...

I think the CPD has seen it better days and will slowly fade into history. There is very little new blood in that organization. If it weren't for Kay Strickland it wouldn't even exist today.

Carol said...

I really like the new format of your blog, Richard!

I hope we can all maintain civility with each other even if we disagree.

Gordon Inkeles said...

Wherever the trail ends up it will be a good investment for the county. Portland's bike infrastructure has produced a healthier population, a surge in bike tourism, and a greener environment.

They've also managed to attract many bicycle-related industries.

Anonymous said...

NO just another radical mouth piece for LC who will think speak the party lies.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
I talked to Kaye one day and found a true believer. Rational thought processes were not in evidence. Faith ruled all. Made me want to shoot her in the head. I hate zealots."

RICHARD~! This message is unacceptable to you, isn't it???

Why don't you delete it right now???

I don't appreciate some coward talking about shooting anyone in the head, much less a woman I know and respect.

BAN the SOB!

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Kill all extremists!

Anonymous said...

For all you humor impaired, that was sarcasm.

Anonymous said...

Just keep believing your line of BS. All you did was turn out 10% of the entire possible vote to beat up on an old man who has given all to his community. His time was at an end but your beginning has no soul. We respect our elders.We do not lie about them for our own gain. I am not a fan of his politics just the man.

Anonymous said...

I don't think anyone lied about him.

Shane said...

"Made me want to shoot her in the head."

That's totally inappropriate. You're not funny. Attitudes like this destroy democratic dialog, no matter which side they come from.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Shane.

Anonymous said...

So that language about shooting my friend in the head was just a joke.

Let me make this two-part suggestion.

First, apologize here and now to Kay for your inappropriate humor.

Second, think before you post messages.

samoasoftball said...

Shots bad.

Anonymous said...

No, the "Kill all extremists!" was a joke. I had nothing to do with the other bit of very bad taste.

Anonymous said...

While you're raving about Portlands bike trail(which is a good thing) remember that a healthy thriving port pays the bills up there.

Mike Buettner said...

You are saying the Port payed for the trails?

Mike Buettner said...

Paid (sp)

Anonymous said...

You mean like our port paid for the Hammond trail?

ThomasSavino said...

I want to help put together a Rail-Bike Contest. I will put $100.00 american, towards the prise money, and all of my time and effort in to it. You have had heard of or maybe even seen Bicycles that are made to ride on rail road tracks. There will be a compitition and rules to win, in order to draw interest. I believe that this will help generate simpathy for opening up the tracks. I believe that humboldt county culture is the sort that would love to ride the rails on people power. Please tell me what you think. thomassavino@hotmail.com

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