I watched Michael Vick on 60 minutes last night and I can't help but think he would still be doing his dog fighting if he had not been caught. I don't think he knew the ramifications of his actions would be as severe as they were. I just am not buying into his rehabilitation. He admitted his handlers had prepared him for the interview. This was a publicity stunt that I just had a hard time believing. Anybody else feel that way?
Vick did, and said exactly what he had to so that he could return to the football field. It simply boils down to the fact that even after two years in federal custody, he still has talent that some wealthy NFL owner wants on his team.
ReplyDeleteand yes, had the feds never been led to that property, he would still be fighting dogs.
Hasn't he served his time?
ReplyDeleteThe real question is what kind of mocking, fine-provoking end-zone dances are certain players (T.O.) going to perform to mock Vick? Possibly down on all fours shaking the football? It better be good.
ReplyDeleteAnderson Cooper did a follow- up over the weekend on the dogs that were taken from Vick's compound. Two died right away ,they were in such bad shape, one had to be put down because he had been made so vicious,and the rest (30 or 40 I gather) have been rehabilitated and are functioning as family dogs and pets. Vick does not warrant the title "human being".
ReplyDeleteNo, he's not remorseful, just wants to be an overpaid football player again. The hell with him.
Studies have shown that most people convicted of felonies seldom consider the ramifications of getting caught, and any remorse they have is in that they got caught. I din't think Vick is any different.
ReplyDeleteSo, if you commit a crime, and serve your time,you shouldn't be allowed to return to your profession?
ReplyDeleteNo, the big question is why 60 minutes did a "fluff" piece- I'm a big fan, and didn't appreciate this story. Heck, Vick even brought in his own interviewer!
ReplyDeleteI'd love to have seen Ed Bradley take on this interview. My guess is that we would have seen a very different Michael VIck.
So, if you commit a crime, and serve your time,you shouldn't be allowed to return to your profession?
ReplyDeleteIn most cases, yes the person should be and is allowed to return.
but...
The National Football League has a Player Conduct Policy that allows the League, or in most cases the Commissioner of the League, the final word on whether a player gets to return to play. This was something the Players Union agreed to in the last bargaining contract with the Owners.
So in this case, NO, Michael Vick did not have the right to return to work in the NFL. At least not until the NFL Commissioner said so.
What difference does it make what he may or may not be doing 2 years later. We can have an opinion but we do not know. If he is truly remorseful, which it appears to me, why should he not be given a chance? It is so easy for us to sit back and judge other people while our misdeeds are hidden. Have none of you ever had to ask for forgiveness? It also is irrelevant how he became remorseful as long as he got there. Is a person who cheats on his wife and destroys his family worthy of being a "human being"? Oh yeah, that is just a lapse in judgement and the remorse is genuine if he is a democrat. Kind of like the terrorists that bomb animal research facilities and the environmentalists that spike trees and harm loggers are "compassionate activists" and the Palestinian suicide bombers are "freedom fighters" while George Bush is a Nazi and sub-human. The hypocricy of the extremists on both sides is a sight to behold.
ReplyDeleteI saw the interview too. He had a smirk on his face, and I don't think it was sincere. He did some time, but not enough. He is a punk, and commish should keep him on a short leash (pardon the pun). As a matter of fact. I think he should have to live in a kennel.
ReplyDeleteThis is typical from you white people. Put him in a kennel, non-human....you sound like a slave owner. If he was white we wouldn't hear such terms but since he is African-American he is just a murdering criminal. Your progressive attitudes are a phony and transparent as glass. As long as it makes you sound good with your white friends you feel sorry for the poor, uneducated criminal minded black man. When he makes a mistake, especially publicly, you show your true colors and sink to the level of your typical republican. I bet you don't say these things about yourself or your friends while you pull the rifle off of your gun rack and kill deer. Oh yeah, you eat those deer so that is ok. Well, take it from this sub-human black man that deserves to live in a cage you don't have a clue about us, our culture or who we are. So you can all take your white guilt and stick it.
ReplyDeleteHe erred, he was caught, he was punished. If you think he should be punished more, then you might want him not to play. That's not how the NFL or the owner feels, so your beef is with them.
ReplyDeleteWill he do it again? I don't know. But if he would, I don't think barring him from football will deter him.
It is not comparable to you but I and many others from the south have a much different perspective. I don't dogfight nor do I like it but, to me, an animal is an animal. There are other people that would say that there is plenty of food available without killing Bambi. They would, and do, call a hunter a murderer. The people in California do not define morality any more than white people do in general. You have an opinion and nothing more. A dog is property, not human. The thing that gets me the most are the use of phrases like "lock him in a cage" and "he is not fit to be called human". I can 100% guarantee you that most people of color would find this an insult to ourselves and our forefathers whether or not you or your ilk understand it or why it was said. Michael Vick is a human being who deserves a second chance, just as anyone else does. If it makes you feel good to think you are not in any way a racist while those you don't agree with are then go ahead and delude yourself.
ReplyDeleteMr. Vick is a bad man. A very bad m — uh-oh, I've got some veal going and I need to check it. I hope that she remembered to pick up the foie gras.
ReplyDeleteGotta go.
This is Anon 7:33. Anybody that does what Vick did should be locked in a cage for a lot longer than two years, and I don't care what color he is, Mr. Jones. I don't care what color you are either. And by the way, I don't hunt either.
ReplyDeleteWhat about all of the animals living out in Samoa?? Cooped up in boxes that all look the same, drinking alcohol all day, no sleep because of all the meth laying around, ears full of sand because they basically live on one big litter box, incest as a normal activity.
ReplyDeleteThese animals need help!!
Send J. Jones out there to hunt them down.
ReplyDeleteCockfighting isn't a predominately Latino cultural practice. That is such a stereotype. Where did you get that idea, tv?
ReplyDeleteSure, people in Latin America like cockfighting. So do people in India, Thailand, Phillipines, etc.
But, cockfighting is undoubtedly popular among white boys. I could cite historical things like Greece, Scotland, George Washington, etc... but I don't have to because the cops found a cock mill in McKinleyville. Who do you suppose was interested in all those McKinleyville birds, people in Mexico City? It was rednecks, no doubt.
I personally don't think Vick actually knew what was going on. The other people involved were probably telling him that they were selling pit bulls and he was fronting them the land since none of them could afford it. These guys running the dog fights were supplying him the good weed and he didn't want to shun them as they were his low-key hydro hookup. In short, I think Vick got hustled.
I don't think Vick should be locked in a cage, but I do think other players should ridicule him for my entertainment.
So you're saying Vick was so fucking dumb he didn't know what was happening on his own property? This had been going on for a while,it wasn't just one instance. Don't try to make it about race. A sadist is a sadist. I'm done.
ReplyDeleteRemorse that he got caught. No remorse for the dog he electrocuted.
ReplyDeleteVick wouldn't be the first person to get hustled by friends he knew before he came up in the world.
ReplyDeleteSure, he owned that land, but why are people so sure he knew what was going down with "Bad Newz Kennels?" He played football and appeared in promotional spots so he was probably busy thinking about... I dunno... football and promotional spots rather than what his boys were doing with the puppy mill business.
I don't think Vick was the mastermind behind any of this. He took the fall for his friends who testified against him. I give him credit for taking the heat.
mr J. Jones.
ReplyDeleteFor Gods sake this is'nt about race.
It's about animal cruelty no matter who the hell is doing it.A "bambi"
(in your words)hunter does'nt go out with the intent to torture.Dog fighting,cock fighting.bull fighting horse tripping, dragging an injured cow too the killing floor...all the other crap we inflict on creatures is torture whatever race or creed we may be.An animal is just an animal you say?So I guess that makes it all ok then.It's a sorry day when beating,electrocuting,slamming these (loser) dogs on the pavement repeatedly till dead becomes ok with some people.This is acceptable to you?Well it makes me sad.It breaks my heart that we havent evoved past this .I don't remember who said this.."You can tell how a society behaves by the way it treats it's animals".Mary
Are you seriously saying that when someone shoots a deer and it runs a mile or two before it dies it does not suffer? Or is it ok because the hunter has no specific intent on inflicting pain? Man, you white people are delusional. As long as whatever you do fits withing your version of good or right it is beyond repraoch.
ReplyDelete"Remorse that he got caught."
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Rose feels the same way about William Calley, who apologized this week, decades after murdering Vietnamese civilians.